Interesting KJV note regarding a thread below
In a thread below where 'the accuser' attempted to accuse and shame me, devil fashion, for recording hours of prayer and fasting (he still hasn't answered how I know Jesus fasted forty days in the desert) he first used the loaded, modern, theological garbage word 'piety' to describe what I was doing, then he shifted and did something interesting, unknown to him.
He began to consider that 'doing alms publically' was what I was doing. He quoted the King James Version (Matt. 6:1 "Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.") He quoted the King James Version because based on what he's read here he knew he'd have been committing suicide if he tried to use a modern rendering based on the corrupt manuscripts.
Yet he did use the modern, corrupt versions of that verse nevertheless, in spirit if not literally. Because the modern versions ALL render 'alms' in that verse as 'righteousness'. And 'the accuser' certainly knew he wasn't accusing me of doing charitable deeds, or giving money to those in need in a trumpeting or public way.
This change of 'alms' to 'righteousness' in the modern versions (NASB, ESV, NIV, etc.) is extremely typical of how the modern versions based on the corrupt manuscripts have changed the Word of God. To change 'alms' to 'righteousness' is to directly challenge the Words of Jesus Himself in Matthew 5:16 ("Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.")
The giving of money or compassionate help - alms - (i.e. charitable giving) to the needy in a loud, public way is a particular activity where people commonly seek to garner acclaim from men, which is the motivation this verse is warning against. Alms, though, is very much not a synonym for righteousness or for good works in general. Modern theologians who champion the corrupt manuscripts justify the change in terminology by saying that "we can surmise" based on "the most accepted scholarship" done by "the most highly regarded men in their fields" that the "person on the street in Jesus' time" used the word "'alms' in a way to mean 'righteousness in general'" therefore "it is justified to change the Word of God in that verse".
But...what does the Word of God say? It says 'alms'. Go with alms, Christian. Go with the Word of God not with the word of man.
For reference:
Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. NIV
Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven. NASB
Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. ESV
Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of people, to be seen by them. Otherwise, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. HCSB
Take care! Don't do your good deeds publicly, to be admired, because then you will lose the reward from your Father in heaven. NLT
All replace 'alms' with 'righteousness' or 'good deeds', which is what the accuser did in the thread below in meaning, though he quoted the accurate King James Version. As stated he only quoted the KJV because he knew I'd gun him down quickly if he'd used one of the corrupt versions with their corrupt rendering. It's also possible that the accuser's mind has been so defiled by the modern versions that he mechanically associates 'alms' with 'righteousness' or 'good deeds' at this point.
Again, here is Jesus talking to you, not modern day scholars pushing and justifying devil-defiled versions of the Word of God:
Matt. 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
5 Comments:
Real Christians put how many hours they fast on their web site. Riiight.
Keep it up, asshat. You're putting on quite a show of how to twist scripture any small child could interpret without your help.
BTW- you aren't Jesus, except somewhere in the recesses of your own delusional egomanical dementia. And if you think Jesus meant "record your hours fasting on an internet billboard," when he said "let men see your good works," you're a better twister of scripture than I ever dreamed.
"I thank you Lord, that I am not like other men. I fast twice a week....etc." Sound familiar yet?
There's a rule: first person to use 'asshat' in an exchange...well....you get the gist...
My recording of hours of prayer and fasting are in the context of the other number in that box. It's a process. Read the site, you'll see, or you'll be more confused, or more incensed probably...
And read the post about why the Puritans kept journals.
It all comes down to having a real valuation for practicing the Faith rather than just talking about the Faith or living a comfortably sleepy existence 'thinking' you are practicing the faith.
You're stung by what you read here, yet your reaction is not the only possible reaction...
The Latin Vulgate is rife with error...
And if you think Jesus meant "record your hours fasting on an internet billboard," when he said "let men see your good works,"
This is your original accusation. Your strawman.
So this is your main accusation: I pray and fast. What a criminal I am. Then you bring up verses of the Bible that refer to motivation not action. So you imply I'm a hypocrit. On what basis? Because I use this sight to give me incentive to make efforts, and to give others good examples of how to go about doing the faith?
To the mainstream, lukewarm, man-fearing church level all of the above are crimes.
To God's own, God's elect, who actually value the Faith enough to do the Faith we don't care if you accuse and shame and moralize like the devil and his followers. It won't put us off doing the Faith.
In your churches you are probably, most likely, very successful in policing people with your accusing and shaming and moralizing. An environment of man-fearing can be very strong and controlling. It doesn't effect me. I fear only God.
You see: "You're not actually supposed to believe this stuff, Christian."
No, I do believe it. And I value it enough to actually practice it.
And you rather conspicuously have been avoiding Jesus' Words I posted for you: Matthew 5:14-16
14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
You also need to learn how to read Scripture. Scripture doesn't exist as a cache of material for you to use to accuse and shame others. Jesus certainly didn't say don't pray or fast in public. He was talking about motivation. Look at your motivation for quoting Scripture, anonymous. It's to accuse and shame. This is what the devil and his followers do. Do you really want to put yourself in that position?
You gave me another launching pad, Jeff. It's a new post...
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