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Noise and nonsense...meanwhile...the Kingdom exists

If all the noise and nonsense that goes on among Christians on the internet seems empty and ridiculous and makes you think: what is the point, who here has a vision of eternity and death and sanctification and glorification and etc.?

What is going on is the particular emotional and intellectual things triggered by being in the mix of religion in general.

Yet, underneath it all (all the noise and nonsense) when a person is called and regenerated that is the main thing. That is a threshold that can't be fallen back through. Individuals are being called out of the world and into the Kingdom. They may not understand it all to the degree a person who buries themselves in theology and the Bible might, but that's not necessary.

There IS a spiritual war that takes place too, and that gets mixed in with it all (stoking the emotional fires and misfires and indulging in lower, pleasurable contention and debate and accusing and what not), but it is often real and necessary nevertheless.

Defending the pure and whole Word of God is necessary, for instance.

But the main thing is regeneration and the slow and steady developing of understanding and of faith. It goes on. And it goes on in time in ways we can't perceive. Recurrence, or living time. People who may not be called now may be in another part of their time. That kind of thing. Your own calling may play a role in that, by you somehow influencing others in your time, maybe not even directly, but in some way.

(Consult Tertullian on 'recurrence.' It's just a way to say that God can act in time in a way we can't perceive, because God is in eternity and above the linear, birth-to-death time of individuals. The Holy Spirit can apply regeneration to an individual at any point in the linear birth-to-death timeline of that individual's life. We can't see how that can be, yet with God all things are possible. God acts from eternity. This is not an argument for univeralism or second chance-ism, though I know some pugilists will insist it is, so be it. It's not the main point of this post.)

The main thing here is there's a simplicity to the faith that can be recovered. And built on. And the noise and nonsense isn't as destructive as it seems. It's just shadows and wind over the landscape. Christians are often looking for a worldly conformity (of church polity or ritual or whatever) which isn't the faith. The Kingdom of God exists foundationally here and now and is universal and the same for all who are called and regenerated into it. The noise and nonsense doesn't effect it...


Blogger irreverend fox said...

what was the pure and whole Word of God in 1600? which Bible?

October 4, 2006 at 6:48 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

>what was the pure and whole Word of God in 1600? which Bible?

The Traditional Text existed prior to the AV. The Geneva, for instance. You had the pure and whole Bible in the Geneva. It gets murky when you descend farther back into the depths of the Roman Catholic enforced darkness regarding the Word of God, but the Traditional Text always existed, and God's remnant, no matter how small in any given time, always was in possession of it.

God's remnant are in possession of it today, thank God. It's called the AV1611.

October 5, 2006 at 1:19 AM  
Blogger irreverend fox said...

if we had the Geneva then why change to the King James? Why should I read your KJV1611 when I can just stick with the Geneva? How can I trust your newer Bible?

October 5, 2006 at 2:18 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

Stick with the Geneva. With the Geneva you'll get the traditional text.

Many did stick with the Geneva, but they were won over eventually to the AV for a reason. It's the same line or pedigree. Just more refined. The culmination of that line. God's providence and the work of the Holy Spirit truly at work.

October 5, 2006 at 3:23 PM  
Blogger irreverend fox said...

more refined? how can you refine the whole Word of God?

October 5, 2006 at 6:39 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

Whole has to do with the underlying manuscripts. Pure has to do with the Holy Spirit and the refining process: "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times."

The Word of God in English went through this process, by the guiding hand of God's providence and the Holy Spirit, culminating in the AV.

If you don't value it, fine. Perhaps you can still value the underlying manscripts of the traditional text. The atheists and spiritualists of the 19th century (and their followers ever since) value neither.

October 5, 2006 at 11:18 PM  

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