Axiom

Truth:

If you don't accept the received Traditional Text Word of God (and you know the difference) you are man-centered and a man-fearer.

Believing Christians know God preserves His Word, every Word, and that the Traditional Text *received* by believing Christians through history, through persecution, through martyrdom, the very text of God's Word hated and hunted and burned by the Beast of Rome itself shows itself by Church and historical and Spirit-discerned witness to be the very Word of God pure and whole.

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The subject was raised above regarding KJOs, or Traditional Text in sound translation onlists, believing that one can't be regenerated by a corrupt version.

Doctrine of regeneration and the Holy Spirit being able to work outside of Scripture but ordinarily not and all that aside...

I, for one, don't back down on saying the Traditional Text regenerates, but one has to see it this way: if a person reads the Bible innocently, like a child, not knowing issues of the underlying manuscripts, *but sees the Bible as something that is above them* then they are approaching it in a manner that potentially causes the seed of the Word to fall into fertile ground, even if they are taking in that seed from an imperfect version.

On the other hand, if a person continually reads a 'Bible' thinking it is imperfect, and that man is needed to determine its content, and thus is in effect *seeing the Bible as something that is below them*, i.e. something *they and scholars and man in general determine, ultimately, what it is to be* then that person is in no position to receive even a partial amount of seed (living language) in anything resembling fertile ground. That person is still operating under the internal tyranny of their vanity and worldly pride, and rebellious self-will.

How you approach Scripture effects your inner state. It is like the difference between being God-centered and man-centered.

The dead or sterile orthodoxy, the unbalanced intellectualism (which is even itself shallow), the resort to degrees of sacerdotalism, and the resort to academic man-fearing and respecting of persons and just adopting unbiblical academic models for the faith that we see in Reformed environments these days are a result of these individuals having an approach to Scripture that is not as a child, looking up, recognizing and valuing its authority but looking down on it, as scholars, determining what it will be, treating it as any other document from the past.

I do believe the innocent person described above who sees the Word as something that is above them will eventually gravitate to the pure and whole Traditional Text Word of God. In our era there does not seem to be many choices for that in English, does there?

I would also argue that the Authorized Version is a most unique and remarkable production as a translation and in terms of language itself, *refined* rather assiduously through time, but that is a different subject on top of the subject of the underlying manuscripts.