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12.01.2005

Hmm...



Hmm. I'll leave this as an inside remark, but... hmm...

The Village of Morality Christians fear man so much they can't even talk. I won't call you a fake Christian, that's between you and God, but when your Christianity makes you so fearful you can't even engage in the slightest degree of an exchange with somebody you consider to be outside your smug and correct environment you are not on the Way...

What you fear is the Way itself. And Christians who fear only God...

15 Comments:

Blogger c.t. said...

Your fellow smug and correct-thinking bloggers are patting you on your back though (if they're not patting you on top of your head...)

December 1, 2005 at 2:15 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

Maybe my presence compromises your convivial status...

December 1, 2005 at 2:17 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

For the record, this is the comment that has just gotten me banned from yet another Village of Morality Christian blog:

Suzi hits the nail on the head, IMHV.

Some things need to be absorbed silently too.

On another subject: if I was C**** I'd ask Phil Johnson to kindly delete me out of that female ghetto link category he created. That is more than a little bit of a whipped boy move...

Your efforts on the internet and for biblical doctrine are hardly defined by 'convivial'...

Of course because I'm saying this you'll rally around ol' Phil, but after that initial reaction you should think about asking him to delete you out of that ridiculous category.


She was too fearful, too closeted in the zombiesque, man-fearing, moralising environment of the Village of Morality to just respond like a normal human being.

I could be wrong, but I don't recall her ever saying a damn word to me. Going back maybe even a couple of years now. And I was hardly breathing fire on her blog when I'd make comments there. She was solely going on the collective shunning rule of her 'people'.

It's actually disgusting when you think about it. Because these are people who self-identify as Christians...

Truth is, though, the moment they respond to me I go in for the kill. They know that. Some of them are more guarded, and C**** is one of those types. She doesn't want any shocks to her comfortable system. Certainly nothing that will tell you about anything called the Way...

December 1, 2005 at 2:37 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

Think about this: the very same Christians who engage in this collective shunning of me (in some cases based solely on following others and never having had a single conversation with me) are people who will gladly debate atheists and Christians with severely off-the-mark doctrinal beliefs, but a Christian who is on the Way? A Christian who isn't a resident in the Village of Morality or who isn't stuck in the Slough of Despond? These fools run scared. So be it. Real Christianity convicts them.

December 1, 2005 at 3:46 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

I point this out to show others where they currently stand. I can't get people to step out of the Village of Morality any more than I can convert anyone. Only God converts, and it requires an inward motivation to get oneself on the Way. Yet it is possible to convict people. And they are convicted. Shunning a person doesn't protect you. You know where you stand...

December 1, 2005 at 3:53 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

"But my children! my children! I have children and a life!"

Do your children save you? What are you saying? And do you have a 'life' if you refuse to get out of your smug, moralising state of being and get out on the Way? You have no life. You're dead in the world. What does Jesus say about family? Of course, you don't read the Bible. You can't read the Bible and justify being where you are. You can't 'see' it, if you should actually read it.

A thousand justifications to fear man rather than fear God.

"Christianity's about family!"

Is it, pilgrim? Think about that, pilgrim...

December 1, 2005 at 3:57 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

Lecture almost over, pilgrims...

"Why do you call us pilgrims?"

I'm making fun of you.

"Oh."

Yes. I want you to be angry at me. I want to leave you, also, with no line of retreat. You can avoid me, but you can't go anywhere, you can only wilt and cower. You're a stagnant pool of water anyway, so it's fitting.

"Why don't you just leave us alone?"

It's too fun not to.

"Is that a good reason to be doing what you're doing?"

There's some self-interest involved. It only gets empty if I do it too long...

December 1, 2005 at 4:02 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

You nail it in those last two paragraphs.

In a way I accept they don't want to screw around with me, but what convicts them is when they didn't know who I was or had ever read any blog of mine they gave me the same silent, shunning treatment. They know instinctively when someone isn't 'one of them'.

But what do they think being a Christian means? It means you're truly a stranger. So this very behaviour of shunning a person (and my point with them debating anybody - atheist, heterodox, whatever - is they admit I'm not that when they refuse to engage me on anything; they know they can't out-orthodox me, and they know they don't know the Bible more than me, and they don't want to get burned publically), so, again, this very behaviour of collectively shunning one person convicts them as being in that 'village' and not on the 'Way'. When you're on the Way you talk to anybody. You don't have that man-fearing controlling you (the group controlling you, the world controlling you).

And because you're a stranger yourself you don't treat others like they are nothing. (You don't do that just because it's kind of weird, but nevertheless because you yourself are a stranger in a strange land you don't have that smug, self-satisfied, 'linx-eyes' - as Nietzsche put it in another context - toward other people.)

But...you can't force people to not shun you. It IS a battle after all. I AM convicting and challenging them. (And the effect is made without them ever saying a word to me, anyway, when all is said and done, so...)

In this recent case I just found it more than usual interesting that this was a person who literally had never responded to anything I'd ever written at her site. And as I said I was not belligerent at her particular site. I often was just offering very tame sort of responses to some of her writing (which is often interesting writing). Notice she was sitting back doing the usual: looking for the least infraction to use as an excuse to ban me. That means if I don't write everything like their grandmother I get banned. Sweet people. Sweet Village of Morality Christians...

It IS possible to debate me, but they get exposed as being Village of Morality and they don't want to be put in that situation, so I say: who's got the problem? Wake up. And be honest.

December 1, 2005 at 6:59 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

One way you can debate me is suggest I tend to drive home the advantage like General Sherman's march to the sea...

They need it though.

December 1, 2005 at 7:04 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

It's a serious thing to separate from the world. It's demanding alot. But God is doing the demanding...

Really all I've ever talked about in my time in this 'realm' is serious - i.e. actual complete - reading of the Bible (mocked from the beginning), and the fact that sanctification calls for an active role (i.e. effort) -- mocked from the beginning...

So you can see that even the most basic level of active, practical faith is anathema to the mainstream. To 'churchianity'. They'd rather wake up every morning and start up once again with the same old worldly, vain nonsense...

Well...

If that's what they desire...

December 1, 2005 at 7:28 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

I've also hammered the theme of the difference between fearing man and fearing God only.

This too is mocked by the Village of Morality Christians. It convicts them to the core.

It's really the central thing. They're fear of man is what makes them mock the reading of the Word of God and to mock the mere notion of making efforts in the Faith...

December 1, 2005 at 7:31 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

Now watch. Watch how they'll defend themselves against all three things they've already exposed themselves on with their mocking. They'll adopt all three, changed to fit their man-fearing, Village of Morality standards. You might ask how they could change man-fearing itself into anything other than man-fearing? They've already done it: they've already made the fear of God to be the fear of man. It's the central tenet of their doctrine and approach to, and practical of, the Faith. They'll just give lip service to the 'fear of God' while all along maintaining their vain insistence and belief that it means 'fear of man'...

They need to be real careful at this point though. They've been convicted on these things. How they react now goes on their record...

And I can take my leave...

December 1, 2005 at 7:36 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

At least your latest posts on Dave Armstrong's blog should put to rest that we're the same person. I didn't even understanding half of that post about your priest being in a conclave...

If you go into Tradition vs. (whatever Tradition is vs.) it would add to it...

Now I feel like backing off and resetting on my dramatics vs. the Village of Morality folks. Afterall, it's not part of my aim to get anybody to 'do' anything. Or even see things my way. I've just been doing satire and challenging people on the few central things mentioned above... And meanwhile (though it seems long ago) forging a language of practical effort using biblical language solely...

December 1, 2005 at 8:11 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

Thaks for the compliments...

Of the making of books...

I think my efforts to develop into the image of God are a good goal for inspired type effort...

When you truly separate from the world nobody even wants to read books written by you...

(To be honest on that: I'm pretty sure I got as much a 'thrill of publication' the first thing I ever wrote that appeared on some site my first week on the internet as I would with getting a book published. I'm serious about that. Readership is more than likely better as well. You just don't get the item on your resume, which impresses the world...)

December 1, 2005 at 9:32 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

I'll stop whining. I will no longer be General Sherman pouting because nobody in Georgia wants to talk to me. (If they raise their head I pull out a pistol anyway...)

Successful warfare can warp you. I'd better be Odysseian in being alert and savvy regarding any potential backlash...

That Village of Morality is cockroach-like in it's ability to sustain itself... And it always has the numbers... Just stay on the Way, and I'll be alright...

December 2, 2005 at 8:20 AM  

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