My Rick Warren post
Rick Warren, an oft-invoked name in the churchianity blogosphere, was on CNN tonight looking more and more like the iMonk. I fear this will launch the iMonk into perhaps even a deeper funk about past decisions and the course of his life.
Warren, a strict, fire-breathing Calvinist, blundered when saying "Jesus wasn't a prophet." A rare misstep in an interview filled with a jovial mix of authoritative man-fearing and fame and shmoozing. The interviewer, an atheist Jew check-forger, boldly challenged God's legitimacy by bringing up the little known, seldom-mentioned historical event of "6,000,000" Jews being killed by a pagan tyrant. Warren countered by praising God's gift of free will to humans. The interviewer countered by saying God could have cancelled the murderous tyrant's free will. Warren countered by pointing out that Jews don't get a pass on original sin and deserved to die like goats to the slaughter. He also mentioned that alot of other people were victims of mass genocide in the last century and they deserved to die too.
The theological discussion ended in a gift of a Hawaiian shirt from Warren to the interviewer, with a mutual back-scratching plug of a charitable act performed by the religion man in the name of the interviewer's foundation. A joyous ending.
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So when do we get your "Hitler really had a few things right about the Jews" post, Jeff...uh...Jesus...uh Caroline....
God kills. Fear God, church Christians...
So... Write some satire on a churchianity god like Rick Warren and be accused of being a nazi... Bravo.
I'm dying in this environment. These mainstream Christians are soul-killing shallow. Everything they write is soul-killing garbage.
This post is not a good example because I'm invoking the name 'Rick Warren' (who I wouldn't even know of if I didn't see him name on various blogs, i.e. he's not on my radar for any reason) and probably deserve every garbage response it gets, but look at the posts with no comments. The posts that actually are about ideas and practices of the faith that are beyond the maintream level (i.e. at the practical level).
Another reason I have no desire to write a book is this: can you imagine writing something and then having to get it by gatekeepers like Phil Johnson (who is an editor at some publishing house)? The internet exists to get around those gatekeepers... But some things aren't meant for a mass audience. The practical level of the Faith is one of those things...
Thank you, Jeff, by the way, for your kind posts. You effectively defused my vitriolic approach to Roman Catholics... Not my allegiance to hard truth, pure, bold biblical doctrine, but you know... You ruined me. My approach, though, or connection with the Faith probably allows, or demands, from me a less belligerent tone. I recognize that seeming contractions aren't always such, but the sad fact is the devil uses language to subtly and not so subtly defile biblical doctrine and if you don't speak in very clear cut, black and white terms you give the devil and his followers openings to do their thing. I have to add, too, that I truly see the RCC as inherently opposed to God's own, and see them as merely out-of-power rather than reformed to any degree or 'less dangerous' to the faithful than they were when they were lighting up Christians across Christendom.
But you obviously show understanding, and as long as one's standard and ultimate authority is the Word of God and not the words of man you will at least have the potential of being on solid ground...
To see how stupid bestselling author Rick Warren, a Christian pastor
who wrote "The Purpose-riven Life", is, look at what he said to Larry
King on CNN the other day. It shows how empty and dumb most Christian
pastors are, including this Rick Warren guy, a very stupid and dumb
person. It makes me feel sorry for what America has become, having
embraced a very stupid and dumb version of Christianity. Sad.
At first, Larry King, says: "In the past, Rick, you will admit the
evangelicals and a lot in
the church didn't look at AIDS."
WARREN: Oh, yes.
KING: Didn't deal with it and in fact called it God's revenge against gays.
WARREN: Yes, yes. Well, you know, they were wrong and we were wrong to
be quiet. I never called it that but we were wrong to not speak up.
The fact is AIDS is not a gay plague. AIDS is a human plague and it
involves -- actually more women have AIDS than men do.
Later, in the same interview, Larry King says:"Back to
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AIDS and the gay community, you know there are some gay activists who
are wary of this sudden evangelical interest in AIDS is the desire to
change their sexual preference.
WARREN: ...Now people ask me all the time what do you think about
homosexuality, OK? Well, I don't approach it -- I approach it like
this. When you look at a female body and you look at a male body it
seems that naturally certain parts go together.
KING: It seems that way, therefore how do you explain why someone is homosexual?
WARREN: I don't explain it. I don't explain it.
KING: Well, then that doesn't suffice.
WARREN: Well, and...
KING: Do you know why women, why you like women, just because the body
is shaped differently?
WARREN: Oh, no, I'm sure I know why I like women.
KING: You do?
WARREN: I think -- I think I was wired by God to like women. I think they...
KING: So, what did he do to the gay person, God?
WARREN: I don't know that God did that. I really don't.
KING: You mean he did it to you but he didn't do it to them?
WARREN: You know, Larry, we all have instincts and we all have urges
and we all have desires. That doesn't necessarily mean that I fulfill
all of them. In other words, as a heterosexual man I might desire to
have sex with 100 women. That doesn't mean I do it because that
wouldn't be the right thing.
KING: All right, but if you desire another man and you're a man and
you're an adult, who are you harming if the two of you agree and it's
your life?
WARREN: Yes.
KING: It's not Rick Warren's life or Larry King's life. It's their life.
Here's the kicker,which shows how stupid Rick Warren really is, when
he asks how can a person believe in Darwin's theory of evolution AND
homosexuality at the same time. What a stupid, bigoted man he is!
He tells Larry King: "Well, again, I would just say I think to me the issue is,
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is it natural? Is it the natural thing? I mean here's an interesting
thing I have to ask. How can you believe in Darwin's theory of
evolution and homosexuality at the same time? Now think about this. If
Darwin was right, which is survival of the fittest then homosexuality
would be a recessive gene because it doesn't reproduce and you would
think that over thousands of years that homosexuality would work
itself out of the gene pool.
Rick Warren is a shallow, stupid charlatan brainwashed fat overweight mindcontrolled robot. He knows nothing about God or love or Jesus. Americans who follow him are stupid. Sad. Sad. Sad.
Someday, he will be shown up for the fraud he is.
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