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4.17.2007

Behold unregenerate inanity


Here's a post from a typically wet Christian site:

Dan Phillips [a writer at another blog] tells us the truth matters. Who disagrees with that? But did you notice he never actually defined truth in his post? What is the biblical definition of truth? Is it really doctrine as his post seems to imply? Can he defend that from Scripture? But what kind of exegesis walks and talks without defining terms? Not the sort I want to engage in.


The person's post he is referring to was referencing the Word of God as truth. To be able to discern truth - the Word of God - you have to be regenerated by the Holy Spirit which is the Spirit of truth. A person who writes, in effect, but what is truth? is not a regenerate believer.

Now look at this inane comment by one of their in house intellectuals:

1 Comment » But, Kevin, when you’re a Fundamentalist (especially a Fundamentalist Calvinist) you don’t have to define anything. That’s the beauty of the system. You know you have a guaranteed clique that’s listening to you (”the Faithful”), and you know they already share all your premises about the Bible and exegesis, all your angst at being in a world that hates and fears you because you expose their deeds of darkness to the light, and all your desire for ready-made, sloganeering conclusions that “refute” the preachers of “falsehood.”

These things being true, all you have to do is keep your tone shrill and your blood pressure elevated and the audience’s fervor against “error” and their fear of “compromise” worked up into a lather and you can get away with fratricide. You don’t have to answer for your own assumptions, you just have to be able to huff and puff and blow down the house of cards you’ve constructed for the other guy to live in and which, all his protestations to the contrary, you insist he must be living in merely because he disagrees with you. You don’t have to offer anything except slogans and categories of thought that came out of your own group’s most traumatic experiences with “heresy” and which you treat like infallible Platonic Forms that judge everything. You don’t have to be accountable to anyone outside your little group, because your little group is the Truth. Everyone knows what you’re talking about, and they love to sit and listen to you pound the pulpit while simply preaching to the choir.

Why try to do anything else? You can sit fat and sassy on the laurels of “the” Reformers and keep propounding the most ignorant caricatures of all other views (”Romanism,” “postmodernism,” “emergent Church”) and people will keep eating it up because neither you nor they know any better. After all, you’re too busy doing expository exegesis to seriously read the Church Fathers or the Medievals and other groups that don’t share your own inbred intellectual tendencies, and since your “Daily Dose of Spurgeon” keeps the heresy away, anyway, you’re really just A-OK.

Comment by Tim Enloe — April 17, 2007 @ 11:14 am


At the foundation of this nonsense is the trite and always fashionable belief that truth can't be known, i.e. that everybody's 'truth' is Truth; and also if 'truth' isn't held to by a vast majority it can't be real truth. If only a small minority of people see it it's obviously wrong.

He also engages in the unregenerate practice of mocking true believers.

This individual is currently on a track to earn his Ph.D in something or other, and as I see it, all the current Ph.Ds in his field deserve him. This little monster will sit at their table in their conferences and be an effective mirror for the rest of the fools self-identified as Christians with letters after their names.

5 Comments:

Blogger W.H. said...

Bless me, no! This can't be. I must be dreaming. ?

April 18, 2007 at 9:56 AM  
Blogger c.t. said...

~:/

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~:| You can write a comment that is seemingly meaningless, or not saying anything while trying to give the impression it is saying...

~;0 SOMETHING!!!

~:/

~:|

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~:| But it's just all emptiness.

~:/

~:| Vanity.

~:o Vanity of vanities, all is vanity!

~:O You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you!

~:/

~:O Don't you, don't you, don't you!

~:/

~:/

~:|

~:/

~:| OK, who cares?

~:/ You have a point...

~:|

~:/

~:O Big news flash! There are shallow Christians on the internet!!

~:/

~:| I'm finished.

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~:/

April 18, 2007 at 1:18 PM  
Blogger Robert Fisher said...

I think he's saying 'Careful, c.t., you're starting to sound like James White or Phil Johnson.' :)
Tim isn't exactly being forthcoming with specific examples of what he's talking about.

April 19, 2007 at 8:38 AM  
Blogger c.t. said...

I feel this irony as I write here, often, I have to admit.

Here's my problem with that: a) I share White's and Johnson's high valuation for intellectual-oriented biblical doctrine. I think that is part of conversion, getting real understanding of - and having discernment for - on-the-mark apostolic biblical doctrine. And once you have it you naturally defend it and can discern when it is being attacked in the various common ways it is always being attacked. Yet, b) I differ with a White and Johnson regarding issues surrounding fearing man and fearing God. They fear (revere) man. As common church type Christians they are shallow regarding the actual practice of the faith and being separated from the world. This is the Village of Morality vs. the Way difference. Mainstream Christians reside in the Village of Morality, and smugly and arrogantly so (and by default moronically so).

The fact that a White and Johnson and similar church Christian types can't see the corruption of the Alexandrian manuscripts gives them away regarding discernment. For discernment you neeed more than an intellectual grasp of biblical doctrine. You need what you can only get by separating from the world, practicing the faith in real time, and engaging influences that are above the level of food, money, sex, and science fiction novels (so to speak)...

When Christians who set themselves up as leaders or teachers fear man more than God, and push the fear of man over the fear of God they are rather odious to a Christian who is on the Way and fears God only. They can't understand this because they are currently shallow. They've yet to awaken. They're asleep in the very comfortable and mutually-reinforcing Village of Morality.

April 19, 2007 at 1:06 PM  
Blogger c.t. said...

You can see the shallowness of the Village of Morality church level too in the subject of sanctification. Presbyterians think sanctification (active, progressive sanctification as opposed to passive, definitive) consists in drinking grape juice from a plastic cup while a cleric gesticulates and intones. God knows what Reformed Baptists consider sanctification to consist of. Mostly they reside in airy, nebulous philosophical and theoretical realms regarding it (if that) and no where near the practical level. This is shallowness for a self-identified Christian.

The fear of God plays a role here. God tells us that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. This means when you cease to fear and revere man and the opinions of man you open yourself up to the influence of the Holy Spirit. Of course if you read that last sentence and kneejerked the thought: "Oh! but that is how you allow demons to enter your thoughts and how you follow Satan's influence!" then you're just a joke. Regeneration means you have the Spirit in you which means, among many things, you have discernment. The Holy Spirit gives discernment. Ability to discern up from down, wheat from chaff, God's influence from the devil's influence. If you have it, use it, Christian.

April 19, 2007 at 6:50 PM  

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