'Social justice' again...
>is it possible that being concerned with justice is a necessary part of our behavior as Christians?
>doesn’t the exegete have to preach social justice?
The problem here is the very term itself - social justice - coming out of the mouth of anybody is *foundationally naive.*
The world preaches resentment and entitlement; 'social justice' is about resentment and entitlement, and resentment is always directed at other humans. The Word of God, on the other hand, preaches gratitude and the fact that we are in this world, not of this world.
'Social justice' presupposes in the person mouthing it a very worldly unself-aware self-estimate of holiness and righteousness. "We want social justice for these poor people!!!" So who are you shouting at? Yeah, that's right, resentment always needs a human target (if indeed the target isn't God Himself). So you, as the mouther of 'social justice' are now judging other humans in the *unbiblical way* which is from an inherent sense of your own holiness and righteousness.
The best government is one that puts checks and balances on all the features of fallen man. The best system of economics is one that recognizes self-interest and allows it to work freely for the benefit of all. You want 'social justice'? Take the government shackles off the 10 percent of society who are energetic and creative and make the jobs for everybody else. The people who shout 'social justice' are the same people putting those government shackles on our job creators.
The devil's kingdom wants tyranny. Become more self-aware, Christian, and learn to discern these things. See that your call for 'social justice' is your fallen nature wanting to indulge resentment towards others (whoever is a good target) and God Himself and to cloak it in biblical terms. Wake up.
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hi, I'm the atheist that pointed out your delusionality in the previous post, but I must say I agree with you here.
Whenever I hear liberal Christians talking about 'social justice', it always strikes me as sort of a con, as if by an atheist. If I as an atheist want to con you into acting in ways that suit me, I'll quote verses to you out of context like implying that parables such as the good Samaritan imply that government has a mandate to steal from others through taxation, even though the Samaritan gave of his own resources.
And even if the Bible endorsed stealing from others as a legitimate means of charity, it's still another illogical leap to say that funding a bureaucracy that 'gives' to all kinds of questionable causes is really 'charity'. Individual organizations can probably do a better job at this than government mandated pork barrel 'charities'.
I shamelessly admit that although Christians are nuts to believe in fiction (like Isaac mistaking AN ANIMAL PELT FOR HIS OWN SON ESAU), that I'd rather have Rousas Rushdoony as president rather than trust in the ethical void of idiots like Obama, Sunstein, Jennings and the associated cast of sleazeballs.
Who knows what idiotic insane direction they may veer into next week? I'm with you there, but you are still wrong in you worldview.
But remember the bigger con is the con the devil puts on atheists making you think you are free when you are in bondage to the darkness and death of the devil's kingdom.
As for Christians, Christians are in all different stages of development and understanding. Easily fooled by false teachers and political/social idols alike.
On Issac and Jacob, it was actually goat skin which is apparently quite like hairy human skin, but it was really Rebecca's acting on prophecy and seeing that the older son would serve the younger. How that was done, it was ultimately God's doing, in His providence.
One thing about where you are vis-a-vis Christianity. Sometimes a person has to come at it from unusual angles, or just one unusual angle. I always considered the church level lame. It was a very uncommon southern guy who simply read the Bible over the airwaves word for word. That Word quickens, potentially. It did me. Then all my engaging of higher influences prior came to the fore whether ancient Greek (Homer especially) or even something like Grail romance. Even questionable stuff with grains of truth like 12 Tribes vis-a-vis Europe type influences. Things the church level mocks in ignorance. It's like climbing a mountain. You get to summit level influences in art, music, history, philosophy, imaginative literature, science and sacred writings, then you realize the Word of God still hasn't been reached. You get perspective.
I don't buy any of this. It's way lopsided. It just doesn't unpack the issue at all. A laugh that you find an athiest chiming in agreement. Opponents of social justice simply desire to retain their advantage. You need a heavy taste of poverty, a life without prospect of change, with the shitty stick in your hand, without voice or influence. Social justice isn't about resentments or shouting but rather equalities at a civic, civil, political and social level. Opponents of social justice fear people taking control of their own lives. How things are is to their advantage or comfort, and that is what they care about, self-interest. Opponents of social justice perpetuate a dependency culture, deny creative energy, shackle self interest into its most narrow avenues and undermine foundational personal development. The 10% that create jobs for everyone else is a perfect point. There are plenty of people with entrepreneurial spirit but the lack of social justice is what keeps the 10% at 10%. Social justice isn't a call it's an action that people take because they want to, because they need to and because they don't care that you don't like and don't want them to. It's just tough if the landlord is forced by his tenants to reinvest to make his property decent and habitable. If he doesn't like it he can practise eating his resentments.
There will always be inequality of outcome, no matter how equal all are in opportunity. But that is all beside the point. My post was about the idol of the state and how 'social justice' is left-wing code for socialism.
The left wants to put themselves in the place of God and determine who is good and bad. Really what they want is to create tyranny where true inequality takes hold with police force added in, and which is the history of the left, which, by the way, is why the left doesn't like to teach history - i.e. real history. History exposes the crimes and failures of the left.
The subject is not about 'doing good.' The subject is about *knowing your own smell.*
In America a free market 'does good' better than any call for 'social justice' by any leftist has ever done. America instituted public education *for all* as one of the first things the Christians who founded this country accomplished.
Suffice to say, political and economic systems aside (separation of powers and free markets are good, pilgrims): try to 'do good' without having to identify who is 'good' and who is 'bad' in any given situation. You are not God. If you think you are inherently holy and righteous then it will follow that you will think indulging resentment towards 'them' (the bad people) is a holy and righteous thing to do. Then the smell of shit coming off you will smell to you like roses. God smells the shit.
The word 'justice' alone should alert you to the devil's shit. God deals out justice, man is incapable. Man's will leads to things like genocide.
In America justice is gotten at by putting real limits on the features of fallen man called checks and balances and rule of law based on a Constitution and Bill of Rights that recognizes the true and only standard for those rights: our Creator God. Justice, to use the term, is also gotten at by giving everyone an education and making higher education available to anyone who desires to pursue it. We have been doing that from our foundation. We pioneered it. The 10 percent I speak of is drawn from *all levels of the economic ladder* (which, by the way, is the most fluid ladder in the world, i.e. there are no permanent classes in the United States just as there are no businesses entitled to business apart from their effort and ability to stay ahead of their competition in a very changing and demanding free market).
Enough of this. The people who mouth 'social justice' create ghettos and soulless environments that not coincidentally become permanent voting blocks for the leftists who created their horrid world.
It should also be said: not all want is the result of oppression. And charity and mercy don't have to be put in the category of 'justice.' The devil's children want to put it there. It is part of spiritual warfare to be on to those deceptions.
Also, it can be said that we are talking about different things, but if so then state that you think there is some system of government that provides and secures equality of opportunity and freedom better than what was founded in the United States and what can be found, if in less robust form, in western Europe.
This world is a prison in and of itself due to it being the location of the kingdom of satan.
Don't talk about 'social justice'. That is the devil's language. Talk about rule of law, individual rights, free markets, a robust and ground-up structure of public education, and a strong, civilian commanded military. That - and the charity and mercy associated with Christianity - is what secures what you are thinking of when you write 'social justice.'
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