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Good indexed overview interview of Michael Heiser on his book Unseen Realm

This interview is helpful to get an overview of Michael Heiser's Unseen Realm. Click 'show more' under the video to see a very helpful contents list by time mark.


Blogger Gary said...

I now have The Unseen Realm and am about 40 pages in, but already Heiser's liberal presuppositions are troubling me. I am not sure that I can articulate what I'm thinking exactly, but the main problem seems to be that while Heiser recognises that the Bible describes supernatural forces, he can't quite bring himself to accept that the supernatural played a part in the actual writing of the book. So, for example, on page 39 he fails to see the Trinity in Genesis 1:26-28 because reading the New Testament back into the Old Testament "isn't a sound interpretive method for discovering what the Old Testament writer was thinking". He doesn't seem to grasp that scripture contains seeds and shadows that only reveal themselves clearly with the passing of time, that there are areas where the Biblical writers had more knowledge than we, but that there are also areas where we have more knowledge than them (because Christ has come). I find Heiser's ideas compelling, but I worry that ultimately his analysis won't stand up to scrutiny. I will shut up now and get back to his book lol.

PS I appreciate your recent posts on this subject. Fascinating.


March 31, 2016 at 3:45 AM  
Blogger Gary said...

Having just watched this interview, I am also troubled by Heiser's sniffy attitude to the KJV. Was this much of a problem for you? It certainly makes his much-touted "Deuteronomy 32 worldview" less clear. Do you think that matters?

March 31, 2016 at 8:58 AM  
Blogger c.t. said...

I read that passage, Deut. 32, in the KJV and immediately could see he was reading the passage wrong. In context I agree with commentators like Gill. It's a good point whether that nukes his main thesis. I think for myself that whole Divine Council thing is what I read most loosely in all he says. You can read it loosely and still see how territorial fallen angels (seen as gods) control peoples and geographies, all ultimately a front for Satan himself.

I guess I should state more that I consider this book wheat and chaff, with maybe more chaff than a Reformed type Christian is used to bothering with, but having said that when the overall subject is the supernatural and spiritual warfare it is worthwhile to go outside the orthodox bounds because the spiritual warfare material kind of can be legitimate even when couched in heterdox doctrine otherwise.

April 2, 2016 at 9:22 AM  
Blogger c.t. said...

One thing Heiser picks up on and is something I got from Meredith Kline is the deep and overriding symbolism contained in the mountain imagery of the Bible. Isa. 2:2,3. The way mountains also represent scale, as they are ascended. But Sinai representing law; Zion representing grace; and Mt Hermon generally representing idol worship in general and all that it involves including the forces of darkness. Three representative mountains.

April 2, 2016 at 10:24 AM  

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