Putting childish things away

Anonymous said...

Lane wrote: "As entertaining as many of your comment have been, they simply have not been in line with the tone I want this blog to have."

Lane is worried about the 'tone' of his blog at the expense of truth, his poor little blogs tone will suffer...oh dear me what a blind and utter fool. I've been following your writings for some time now and totally agree that the time has come to intervene, you can play along with these monsters for just so long. They just dont get it and never will, perhaps until their soul burns in hell.

Merry Christmas,
W.
December 26, 2007 10:59 AM

Blogger c.t. said...

This quote from Lane Keister you bring up was commented on by another blogger who pointed out how nowadays these pastors and so forth want to be seen as 'intellectuals' and 'scholars' and thus bring all the vain nonsense of those environments and associations with them into subject matter (biblical doctrine) that gives no quarter to such nonsense. The blogger then pointed out how the magisterial reformers were rather colorful in letting people know where they stood, and could take as well as they could give, lest they should get off the mark themselves.

R.K. kept pointing out on Lane Keister's blog that there was a tactical reason Calvin kept throwing in a 'dog' and 'filthy swine' when dealing with wolves and false teachers and other errorists; it was because if you give them any kind of opening (such as calling them 'brothers in Christ', as a recent denominational report called certain false teachers after identifying them as false teachers) then the false teachers will use that phrase as a default exoneration of everything they are saying. Which has happened.

Did Calvin really think they were dogs and filthy swine? Probably not, just in grave error, but maybe not necessarily forever. But he had to use that language for tactical reasons. You can't play diplomatic games with wolves.

Do what makes the devil and his ministers angry

Yes, do what makes the devil and his ministers angry. Read the Word of God (the whole and pure, traditional text, God-preserved Word of God). Be a prophet, a priest, and a king, who fears God only and not man. This alone, to fear God only, marks you as their great enemy. Walk through the doors of any church in the world as one who fears God only and the church leader will instinctively feel your presence, and the anger will rise in him. That is the spirit of disobedience in all the ministers of the devil in these end times who control Christian environments and cultivate and enforce the fear and reverence of man over the fear of God.

If a blatant false teacher enters their domain they will show their threats and anger at the Christian who fears only God before they will show any kind of disapproval of the false teacher. Recognize the kingdom of satan. Recognize its ministers in the Christian churches and denominations and seminaries and other institutions.

See everything for what it is. Cut through the illusion. Does that so-called 'pastor' show comradery towards blatant kingdom of satan false teachers? Yes? You've all seen it. They do. They have no other choice, and the satanic false teachers know they have no other choice because the so-called pastors are in the kingdom of satan as well and know the rules and abide by them. So, if you see this then act on it. A Christian fears only God. This is the mark of a real Christian. When a real Christian sees a false teacher he sees abomination. He doesn't act with comradery and back-slapping jovial brotherly laughter with the false teacher. Yet you see this over and over in the Christian churches. The ones obviously taken over by the devil, but also the ones who still affect to hold to apostolic biblical doctrine. The ones still calling themselves Calvinist and Reformed.

God's elect still exist. God always has His remnant. We fear and revere God only. We are not in the Village of Morality where the devil wants self-identified Christians to be, where the fear and reverence of man is taught and enforced and reigns.

Email to Pastor Lane Keister (GreenBaggins) from Robert K.

[Updated below.]

You appointed a moderator in Reed dePace (if I have that name right) who defaults to a pro-FV stance due to his moderate stance and lukewarmness to false teaching alone. One of your other moderators posts a description of covenant theology full of concessions to Federal Vision doctrine saying it is impressively on-the-mark. Either he wanted to give that impression or he didn't know the subject matter enough to know better. You entertain FV clowns with the patience of Doug Wilson himself.

At this point observers consider all Presbyterian/Reformed churches, denominations and default doctrine to be Romanist Federal Vision poison. What else should we think? And on your blog notice the only people you ever keep threatening are the critics of the Kingdom of Satan the current messengers of which on your blog are calling themselves Federal Vision. All the lukewarm moderates and the satanists themselves get a free pass.

What kind of idiocy does it take to write up a full and complete report calling Federal Vision false teaching and then call them 'brothers in Christ.' Two things: it shows ignorance of the Word of God, and it shows a sick level of ignorance of false teachers (not knowing they would use that phrase to exonerate themselves before the world).

The sickness in the Presbyterian/Reformed churches and denominations and seminaries (how long did you all allow Shepherd to stay and do his thing?) is frankly a disgusting sight to this Reformed Christian.

Please stop calling yourselves Calvinists and Reformed. You're working for the devil at this point. - RK

Pastor Lane's reply won't be posted, as it is private, but here is RK's response:

People calling themselves 'pastors' who wouldn't know a wolf if it were eating their child before their face makes me a bit angry, to use your characterization. And from the beginning on your blog (and on every so-called Calvinist site I've been on - PuritanBoard, the yahoo lists many of your moderators contribute to, etc.) the pressure is ALWAYS put on the critics of Federal Vision to 'cool it' or 'you will be banned.' Meanwhile the devil's clowns are given a free pass. This is sick behaviour. This is Village of Morality behaviour which says the default Romanists are citizens of the same village as the Presbyterians and Reformed church Christians.

Again, please stop calling yourselves Calvinists and Reformed. You have forfeited that label long ago. Your seminaries have turned out false doctrine for most of the 20th century. Your churches and denominations, if not blatantly liberal and anti-Word of God are more insidiously false and deadly which is why you can't fight off even the most ridiculous of false teachers such as Federal Vision clowns.

You don't have any high ground. You've allowed what you've been given to be defiled by the world and the devil, and your default position is to show displeasure with God's elect who defend His Word and His doctrine and show comradery towards the false teachers and their followers who wake up every morning eager to continue their campaign to defile God's Word and His doctrine while you call them 'brothers in Christ.' - RK