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3.31.2013

Romanizing the Reformation

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"You Protestants are stupid. Read books written by the Pope." - Prof. Michael Horton

"Lay people should not read the Bible themselves. There is no salvation outside a local church building." - Prof. R. Scott Clark

3.30.2013

Good quote

A quotable line from me in inner dialogue with a family member:

"You need to read the Bible and sort things out from a God-centered perspective; everything else is just B.S."

3.27.2013

Here is a wonderful name for the Old and New Testaments

In the midst of the parable of the sower there is a wonderful name for the Old and New Testaments:

Mat 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
The Word of the Kingdom

3.26.2013

Something I still don't 'get', or understand in Christianity

I didn't respond directly to your observation. I can, and also can't see what you're saying. I mean, the dousing of flames, and the changing of desires and all that I can see. Personally for the rest of it I tread lightly around statements that sex has become something different, because it's so powerful. It's like food. Check to see if the person talking has a full stomach or not. And I'm not saying you're being naive, I'm not even directly responding to what you did say, but you know what I mean.

Here's something I still don't 'get', or understand in Christianity (or at least Christian writers, good ones, ones with great understanding like the Puritans)... They write that they can't wait to get to Heaven so they can gaze on Jesus. Not God the Father who no one has seen and is a Spirit, but Jesus Christ the God-man. Now, I know we are talking about ***God Himself*** and the beatific vision is most likely *more* than we can grasp now, but it actually seems *carnal* to me (and dare I say boring). And to gaze on humans has an idolatrous feeling to it, even though it's not because it is Jesus Himself. God.

But you know what I'm saying... Get to Heaven and just stand there gazing at Jesus. I'VE SEEN PICTURES OF JESUS! But even granting that that would be *more* than it sounds, it is still suspect to read over and over from theologians of the past that they are all emotional and longing to do just that.

C. S. Lewis and Meredith Kline in different ways talk about how we become the actual materiel of Heaven. Instead of just looking at a beautiful landscape we become the landscape. That type of thing. If that is what they are talking about (and I don't think it is) then I can see the wonder of that. And why we would desire it. We become like God, not God, but like God. We are part of that cosmos. All that. That would rate the language of longing and emotion and all that that the Puritans expressed.

I feel I'm treading dangerous ground here. I'm not saying, "Jesus, ho hum..." I'm focusing on Puritan type (and moderns as well) writers who seem to desire something that to me seems wholly sexless. I guess there is the crux of the matter. Sexless. We don't have sex with God. But we do want to be mirrored, we want to look at another being and see something delightful. That's the kind of joy I'd have to imagine, but maybe I'm being too this-worldly. But we can't deny beauty and charm and everything like that that gives delight. Men writing about seeing a man clanks to my ears. Wisdom, in all her beauty, yes.

But I know it's all *more*. As above, so below, yet very different in terms of degree and so on. Even the Olympian gods and goddesses had an appearance that was *more*. Zeus couldn't show his true appearance without the vision of it killing a human. So, I know there's more going on.

Maybe they are saying that seeing King Jesus will represent total salvation and arrival and success and end of suffering and stress and the joy of being *home.* I can see that. But I had to think it through. - C.


[I was replying to this email:]

From: S---- ----
To: c. t. <----------@yahoo.com>

Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:09 PM
Subject: RE: This R. C. Sproul book is free for now on Amazon
I can't remember the context now as I got sidetracked before I could email my thoughts, but something you said the other day had me thinking about the Bibles effect on our sinful nature.
My personal experience seems to be that sin loses its glamour. This is something that I don't think I could have got from the Work alone... For some time, you can have the feeling of "here am I trying to be conscious and clean, and look at everyone else having a great time, being famous, rich, and screwing their brains out! Am I c-r-a-z-y??!!!"
Continual intake of the language of the Bible however douses those flames, and replaces it with a new vision. A vision where all that is death.
It's quite a strange experience to be living through, quite mysterious I have to say.
Do you know what i mean?
s

[My first response to S. started this way:]

It's a parallel thing that I remember you observed a long while back, how resentment and anger is glorified in media, movies, television. How it's portrayed as cool and normal. Then when you learn that not all emotions are noble (something we have to actually learn), that some are negative, and we are total weak slaves to them, all that portrayed behavior starts to look uncool if not inane.

3.24.2013

Reformed academics and Rome

"Confessionalism is a churchly, theological, sacramental, disciplined approach to Christianity that is probably fairly described as elitist inasmuch as The faith is mediated to the masses by the ministers." - a professor at a Reformed seminary

You can admire and use the classic Reformed confessions without being Roman Catholic. It's possible. I do it all the time.

1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

"Previously, men had looked to the Church for all the trustworthy knowledge of God obtainable, and as well for all the communications of grace accessible. Calvin taught them that neither function has been committed to the Church, but God the Holy Spirit has retained both in His own hands and confers both knowledge of God and communion with God on whom He will."
- B. B. Warfield

3.22.2013

Dr. Christian Academic is currently evangelizing Indonesia

I love how academic Christians fly off to country X, speak to 14 people in a hotel meeting room, then come back and talk about it like they're a modern day apostle Paul. And they usually characterize the trip as: "I preached the message to Indonesia." Rather than saying: "I flew into an airport in Jakarta and talked to fourteen people in the Jakarta Holiday Inn, then I got back on the plane and flew back home."

Why am I mocking them? Because they're playing dress up. They're taking the most comfortable route with the least resistance, giving a 'talk' (that will have the impact of reading an article in a journal, if that), and then making like they are from the apostolic era.

"Jakarta!" his neighbor says, "that sounds exotic...and dangerous! Did you have to cut your way through dense tropical forest to get to a tribe that's never heard the Gospel?"

"No comment," Dr. Christian Academic says. "It's not my place to even give the false impression I may be boasting, so I'll just give you a no comment. And God bless."

These are not exactly holy men, are they? They don't exactly bring much with their presence. In fact, they are more likely to exaggerate their state of being undeveloped and shallow and ordinary but then to justify their state by saying Christianity isn't about coming on like a holy man. Well, how about *being* a holy man? Why do you accept a position of teacher and leader in Christian institutions and among Christians if you are no different than anyone else? If you are as shallow and undeveloped as anyone else? I don't think the Jakartans expect to see great antlers on your head, or a visible halo; but how about a human being whose understanding of the faith is larger and deeper than the average dope in a seminary?

Someone not interested in playing dress up. Someone not interested in the fake impression his trip will make on the naive.

3.11.2013

Paradign enhancing Intrusion Ethics article by Meredith Kline

Recently I read complete this article by Meredith Kline on Intrusion Ethics:

http://www.meredithkline.com/files/articles/The-Intrusion-and-the-Decalogue-MGKline.pdf

It is epic for understanding some of the more difficult to understand parts of the Old Testament. It is *very* hard going though. I can summarize it from memory:

People (who don't like the Bible to begin with) complain of the genocide commanded by God in the Old Testament and the Psalms that speak of dashing infants against walls and so on. Kline, using the overall context of Reformed Covenant - Federal - Theology explains such passages in a way that is lock down accurate (if you can discern on-the-mark/off-the-mark) and very different from any other explanation offered. First of all, though, I don't need an explanation. God kills. We don't need to explain it from our warped point-of-view. That is judging God from our level. But with that out of the way here is how Kline explains it:

He calls it Intrusion Ethics. The genocide of the Canaanites is an *intrusion* of the ethics of the *consummation (end times)* on the Canaanites. I.e. it is a type of the final judgment. And what is being *intruded* upon is *common grace.* Normally, this time between the Garden and the final judgement is regulated by common grace. Especially after the flood when God said He would no longer bring such deathly judgment on mankind that the flood brought. So common grace is given to not only God's elect but everybody else. So that the theatre of the world would be a theatre of salvation.

But Kline deftly explains that in the consummation ethics are different. We are actually to hate our enemy then, to use an example. In this era of common grace we are to love our enemy. But once God unleashes the final judgment on the rebels we would be betraying God to love His enemies.

So this explains the imprecatory psalms as well. Those psalms that invoke judgement and violence and curses on one's enemies. They represent an intrusion of the consummation (final judgement) ethics. (And Kline points out that we are not to think we can do an intrusion on anybody, only God manifests that, and since the Bible is set now God is only talking through it, so if anybody says God told them this or that it is lunatic.)

He also points out that there are also instances of intrusion in the Old Testament involving salvation rather than just judgment. For instance when Hosea is ordered by God to marry a prostitute. That goes against the laws of National Israel, but they are an example of the intrusion of the ethics of the consummation where Christ takes as His bride sinful believers. Once adulterous. We become His bride.

The order to Abraham to sacrifice his child Isaac is the same. It is an example of an intrusion of consummation ethics. In this case God's sacrifice of his own Son, the Second Person of the Trinity, Jesus Christ.

So Intrusion ethics means the intrusion from above (like from out of time down into the world) of the 'ethics of the consummation' into the world of common grace and overriding that common grace. It is involved with typology. (This element, typology, is a bigger subject in the Kline article than I'm giving it here.)

Kline is careful to explain how common grace ethics differs from ethics in the consummation end time.

It's a difficult read, but it is epic in establishing understanding of the unity of the Bible, typology, explaining difficult (difficult for some) passages, and even beyond all that the subject has epic edges to it that give a vision of the Bible that is raw and new and on-the-mark.

You have to know Covenant - Federal - Theology to understand Kline, but just so you know the mountain is there you will climb it. - C.

ps- I also had a question on a totally different subject: what is the 'first resurrection' mentioned in Revelation 20:4-6? I thought to myself, "I should know that." So I looked into it. Dispensationalists have their own take, so I wanted to know the Covenant Theology take, and it is this: I'll just give it short hand without going into context and everything: the first resurrection is regeneration by the word and the Spirit. I.e. if you have that then you are blessed and won't suffer the second death. What is the second death? It is the lake of fire. Judgment to hellfire. Why is it called the second death? Because the first death is the death of our physical bodies. Final question: if the first resurrection is called the first then what is the second resurrection? The second resurrection is the resurrection of our bodies at the Second Coming. The first resurrection takes us to be with Christ in Heaven when we die (and regeneration is the beginning of that, it itself is eschatololgical in that we are born again and with Christ above even now, but in full when we die). The second resurrection gives us a glorified body, our old body but very much changed.

pps- Meredith Kline has two articles on the first resurrection at that site linked above. His take is a bit different, but in line with what I've written above. He prefers to call the first resurrection solely our physical death when we then are literally resurrected up to God in paradise (Heaven). But regeneration is the cause of that and the beginning of it, so it is OK (and I and most Reformed theologians think more accurate) to call the first resurrection regeneration by the word and the Spirit.

3.05.2013

Atheists in folklore

Remember: atheists are bridge trolls. They exist to dissuade people from crossing thresholds. They are a type of hell creature, in folklore known as the bridge troll.

3.02.2013

Modern Idol Worship

Three idols of the modern world:

1. The collectivist state (worship of strongest-monkey tyranny).

2. Environmentalism (worship of nature, or the planet).

3. The notion of the Noble Savage (glorification of the criminal, glorification of violent cultures, glorification of resentment and ignorance, glorification of Third World conditions.)

Each is a religion that its adherents make sacrifices to. Sacrifices such as their freedom, their prosperity, their safety. In these acts of sacrifice it is felt that the inherent sense of guilt in the adherents is expiated. Or this is the game that is played. Though it is a game that is often played to the point of real death, such is the revulsion in fallen human beings for their Creator and the pure religion revealed by their Creator in the Old and New Testaments. I.e.: "We will worship anything other than the Creator even to the point of death."

Modern Christian leaders usually list temptations in place of true idols. Temptations such as money, sex, power, fame. These are temptations not true religious idols. Temptations don't give a semblance of expiation for our inherent sense of guilt. (Neither does worshiping professional athletes or rock stars or celebrities. Run-of-the-mill shallow behavior is not deep idol-religion. There's no true sacrifice; there's no sense of expiation of guilt. It may be a training wheels version of real, deep idol worship, or it may be a cover for the real thing though.) This wrong notion of what a real idol is is difficult to remove from the consciousness of modern Christian leaders, because most of them are fully under the spell of the three real idol-religions mentioned above.