Striking thing to ponder

Updated below.

Because more thoughtful individuals tend to get kicked off Christian forums and so forth I can't post this to a forum where the subject has come up, but here goes anyway... The subject is a pastor from Missouri who after WWII became the pastor to 15 of the Protestant Nazi war criminals condemned to death at Nuremberg. The pastor stated that some of them repented and had faith in Jesus Christ prior to their execution by hanging.

My thought to ponder is this (and it has real meaning beyond the shocking surface of it): the unbelieving Jews who suffered and died in so many horrific ways in the Nazi death camps went to hell; while their guards and the higher up Nazis who created the death camps, if they were subsequently regenerated by the word and the Spirit and had repentance and faith, went to heaven to be with God at their death.

The suffering Jews = to hell
The Nazis responsible = to heaven

What this very real scenario teaches is this: Salvation is above anything that is happening here in this fallen world. Other than the unforgivable sin, no sin can keep God's elect out of heaven; and no amount of suffering can keep an unbeliever out of hell.

So, what this scenario is teaching is all the outrage and moralizing about the hell of this fallen world and the acts of fallen men and women in this fallen world are a sound and fury that is not connected with God's plan of redemption which goes about it's way quietly above it all.

And if that outrages you think about this: you never cared about the millions of victims of Communism around the world that were suffering and dying at the very same time that the Jews were suffering and dying in the Nazi death camps. That shows what fallen man's outrage and moralizing is worth. Hence the disconnect between it and the plan and working out of salvation that is effected above it all...

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The reason the scenario is striking (I just want to emphasize) is because it so starkly shows up fallen man's state vis-a-vis God. When we look at that scenario we say, that is such a blatant example of evil against victims. But that is *our* man-centered sense of justice and our moralizing in action. From God's point-of-view it's just one group of children of wrath over-lording it on another group of children of wrath.

In hell there are torturers and tortured too. There is suffering in hell too.

The scenario really is powerful because it forces us to see how whatever happens to us it doesn't matter regarding our salvation. We can't whine about anything because it's empty (vain) regarding our salvation.

We have to see in ourselves what we dislike in others. And we have to see that we attract our lives and are responsible for everything that happens to us.

And this statement too: Christianity is not about being good, it's about making contact.

A bad smell coming from an industrial park office in Arizona

How does James White's 'ministry' take in $188,000 a year? And if it really does, why is he always begging his internet audience to buy him books, gadgets, and plane tickets? Is that why they list expenses at $203,000, so he can keep begging? If not, how on earth does that little operation spend $203,000 a year?

One source of his money might very well be the modern industrial Bible translation complex. They need money-lusting agents like James White to keep people from seeing the evil they are proffering.

A second possible source would be the Roman Catholic Church. Imagine, James, if they didn't have to pay off all those child molestation lawsuits, you might be a millionaire by now!

Most Romanist White Horse Inn to date

The Manchurian Jesuits outdid themselves on this show:

http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2013/09/15/whi-1171-extraordinary-gifts-through-ordinary-means/

Richard Dawkins may be ready for a breakthrough...

Richard Dawkins has now stated that he was a victim of a pedophile as a child, then he went on to say that "mild pedophilia" doesn't harm anyone. Best response on Twitter:

"This just in: Man who spent entire adult life in Freudian quest for vengeance on "God"-cum-Father-Betrayer says mild pedophilia does no harm." - @AceofSpadesHQ

Bible as dictionary (iniquity and godliness)

I did a search for the first occurrence of the word 'iniquity' in the Bible, using that method Riplinger writes of, and I thought it was a dud. But it was staring me in the face. The first occurrence mentioned 'the iniquity of the Amorites.' So obviously to know what iniquity meant I had to do a full Bible study on the Amorites. (I actually at first thought I was suppose to do a first mention of 'Amorite' which *did* lead to nothing, but that is not the process. The process at that point was to know who the Amorites were and how they did iniquity.)

So the first mention thing worked.

After going through references of the Amorites in Scripture (and Amorite is also sort of synonymous with Canaanite in Scripture) the deeper theme that emerged was that the Amorites were a long-running bad influence on the Israelites, always attacking them or tempting them to idol worship and other bad behavior, and trying to destroy them through subversion, if you will, from inside. This is the mystery of iniquity, how the Devil and his spirit are always at work turning anything good into evil, subverting, upturning, redefining, bringing wolf wickedness in sheep's clothing.

In any current day politics the discernment necessary to see this is demanding because of all of our early life allegiances to various things and our early-formed beliefs about everything. So when I go off on the leftist evil vs. liberty [this post was originally an email] and all that and some of you get weary of it or angry you question my discernment and trust your own, but we all have to see for ourselves these aspects of tyranny vs. liberty and how they play out. Or before that just what *is* true tyranny and what is true liberty. The Nazis called a death camp a placed where 'work makes free.' Potemkin Villages all over the Stalinist Soviet Union, etc. Deception is myriad in this world where the Kingdom of Satan has power. On these political subjects I often write as if the various nuances are a given, which causes confusion. Anyway...

So, interestingly, I just now did a first occurrence search on 'godliness' [1 Tim. 2:2] (remember the two biblical phrases that only occur once are 'the mystery of iniquity' and 'the mystery of godliness') and again I thought it was a dud, but lo and behold with a little effort to actually 'see' it was surrounded by the concept of chain of command authority which is the deep definition of faith. I.e. recognizing chain of command and honoring it (the centurion). Jesus being at the top of that chain. Knowing your place in the chain (the woman who said she would take the crumbs that fell off the table). So godliness has to do with faith and recognition of Jesus as King and Lord and the whole life that follows from such recognition. And it is that which the forces of iniquity dog and attack and attempt to subvert and all the rest...

You need a cold splash of water?

Just finished The Pope is the Antichrist by Ian Paisley.

Denying the Received Text and denying that the Pope is the antichrist yet saying you hold to the Westminster (and related) Standards is like saying you believe in freedom yet voting for socialists. You're a fake.

James White in comical meltdown over history of Sinaiticus forgery

If James White is not a Jesuit he's at least the most useful of useful idiots Rome has ever had. He is currently in full meltdown after having just discovered the history of his 'sacred' manuscript Sinaiticus, or satanicus, and how it is most likely a rather obvious forgery (and anyone who knows the comical history of the 'finding' of that obviously 'problematic' (to say the least) manuscript and knows the history of Rome's forgeries over the centuries should not be surprised such a job could be pulled off especially over the dumbest Christians since Pentecost, 19th century rapture dopes and modern day academic Reformed types and their shallow followers). The fact that James White is behind on knowing about this makes his current efforts rather comical. He is desperately trying to get one of his fans to buy him a 1982 book on the subject at Amazon selling used for over $70. Once he gets this book and reads it no doubt he will become an instant expert on the subject and pretend that he's known all about the subject since forever. Meanwhile he is doing his best to smear documentary maker Chris Pinto, who's documentary Tares Among the Wheat (which can be seen in full on YouTube) is what started the Keystone cop meltdown routine at White's 'ministry.' His co-blogger Alan K. has made the first attempts to discredit Pinto (he called him "kooky" for starters). Pinto responded by pointing out Alan K. studied at Harvard Divinity School which, Chris Pinto also pointed out, was like being ordained by Nancy Pelosi, or learning about the Book of Leviticus from Barack Obama.

This all dovetails providentially with my own reading of J. A. Wylie's works on the Papacy (and Ian Paisely's summary of that work called Antichrist, available at Paisley's site here).

We have to remember that some things can be in such blatant plain sight they become easy to miss. Or forget about. Rome's attack on the word of God has been its main effort from the beginning. Dupes like White and Alan K. and the army of liberal critical text scholars who couldn't discern Satan in full goat regalia from Jesus Himself are the useful idiot equivalent of Obama voters, or the first round of executed useful idiots during any communist revolution of the past 100 years. Christians with the Holy Spirit in them, and hence with the discernment that comes from the Holy Spirit should not marvel at the work of Satan regarding his attack on the word of God, the Old and New Testaments. And we should never cease to thank God for preserving the pure and whole word of God in sound translation from the traditional Hebrew text and Received Text, handed down by our brothers and sisters in Christ, fought for, defended with their very blood. Hold an Authorized - King James - Version in hand and express the gratitude its existence calls for to God.

Note to Reformed academics (seminary boys)

Karl Barth - thththththththththththththth - was the theological equivalent of a piece of human shit. He defended Satan in communist genocide, and wrote theology like a Marxist theorist wrote about economics, drowning his audience in an ocean of shit only appealing to fellow leftists and useful idiots of Satan himself. No, there ain't nothing there. It you have discernment for truth, and if you value truth, there ain't nothing there. Yeah, I know, you get a thrill that he had girl friends and stuff, and he was a theologian and stuff with girl friends, 'cuz that's not the usual thing and stuff. Yeah, I get it. I know. You have an infatuation with the piece of shit. Let me throw something at you: Thomas Mann was a fake too. His thing was to fool middlebrow book readers (most of whom graduated from Ivy League schools) who took him as a great, above the world (Switzerland and stuff) intellectual (the great novelist and intellectual of our time, Steve Martin, the arrow-through-the-head guy, is actively modelling himself on Thomas Mann, but he may change tack and become our modern day Robert Musil as time goes on, maybe you can write books and articles about that too). No, you didn't understand anything of what I just wrote, and you will think it's crazy and stupid because you don't get the references or the joke. That's OK. I don't want to explode heads here I just want to send a note to the Reformed seminary boys: Karl Barth - thththththththththth - was a fake and was pretty much human shit in every way possible. If you had actual discernment that comes from the Holy Spirit you wouldn't need to be told this, but...that's a deeper problem.

Little debate with an atheist

"Then how do you explain the prosperous (and more moral than Christians) atheistic societies we see today?"

Like the former Soviet Union?

There really are no "atheist societies" today in the western world. There are countries that are living off the borrowed capital of their Christian past and elements of Christian culture and civilization in their present.

"Would you rape a child if your god convinced you of an "as-yet unknown morally sufficient reason" for doing so? I wouldn't."

Muslims certainly would. Many atheists would and have. All fallen humanity would do and have done pretty much anything given the opportunity and the means. My standard is the word of God, the Old and New Testaments. The ceremonial and civil laws of the Israelite theocracy are defunct upon the birth and death of the Messiah, Jesus Christ, but the moral laws which are for all generations, the ten commandments, are straight forward. The 7th commandment is about adultery and sexual misbehavior. The commandment against covetousness is arguably in play as well regarding the innocence of a child. The main point is that is an absolute standard given by our Creator Himself. It is not the whim or demand or choice of a created being, and fallen created being at that.

"Adultery pertains solely to unfaithfulness within a marriage. It has nothing to do with child rape or the consent of one's partner."

God also commands against fornication and concupiscence. In the 10th commandment to covet also means to lust in general. Thou shalt not covet what is thy neighbor's. A child would fall under that.

God generally, as well, doesn't expect his regenerated and sanctified children to game the system like a defense lawyer. Atheists do that.